Discussion on COVID-19 and the flu, Heo Kyung-young’s prophecies, and the concept of “level” and “angel”
Character Profiles
- 이동섭 | Ethics Committee Chairman of the National Revolutionary Dividend Party | Expresses gratitude to attendees and viewers, and criticizes existing politicians .
- 허경영 | Divine being, Lecturer | Predicted a “state of war” for the year Gyeongja (2020) due to economic difficulties and disease, and claims to be able to cure illnesses and enhance immunity by calling his name . He also states that he can manipulate human energy and levels, and that he is in “Dongta Hell” to save people .
- First-time Attendee (Male) | Audience member | Participates in an energy test, demonstrating how calling Heo Kyeong-young’s name increases immunity and energy levels .
- North Korean Defector (Male) | Audience member | Shares his difficult journey through six countries to reach South Korea, and receives energy from Heo Kyeong-young .
Scene-by-Scene Summary
#1 (00:00:00) Opening Remarks and Introduction
- The speaker, wearing a mask, asks for understanding .
- 이동섭, the Ethics Committee Chairman of the National Revolutionary Dividend Party, expresses deep gratitude for the warm support .
- He states that life is a continuous series of difficulties, with new worries appearing daily .
- He notes that attendees of the Saturday lecture appear bright and worry-free, which makes him happy .
- He attributes this happiness to 허경영, who provides “angels,” “energy,” and “jewel-like lectures” .
- He asks for applause for 허경영 and encourages viewers to recommend the lecture to others to find hope .
- 이동섭 criticizes existing politicians for deceiving the public with self-interest and corruption, focusing only on maintaining power .
- He emphasizes the need for a new, clean start, not just minor changes .
- He appeals to the public to support the National Dividend Party in the April 15th general election to create a happy South Korea free from financial worries .
- The 1222nd Saturday lecture begins, and everyone is asked to stand .
- 허경영 is introduced as a true politician who loves the nation, accurately predicts the future, and will lead South Korea correctly .
- The audience chants 허경영‘s name .
#2 (00:02:57) Heo Kyeong-young’s Arrival and Initial Interaction
- 허경영 asks everyone to sit down .
- He notes the abundance of flower bouquets today .
- He asks people to stop bringing them and to simply receive the flowers .
- He mentions names like Jeon Yu-seong, Kim Tae-won, and Lee Yun-jeong, stating there isn’t enough time to call everyone .
- He instructs them to put down the flower bouquets .
- He then asks what else should be put down, suggesting it’s not just the flowers .
- He implies it’s about letting go of inner desires like greed, anger, and ignorance (탐진치) .
- He clarifies that it’s not about “탐진치” but about letting go of the six senses (안이비설신) and their objects (색성향미촉법), as well as the six consciousnesses (육식) .
- He explains that these 18 elements should all be let go of .
#3 (00:05:00) The Significance of the Watch and the Five Aggregates
- 허경영 mentions wearing a watch for the first time, gifted by someone who wondered why he never wore one .
- He recounts learning how to fasten the watch strap from someone else .
- He explains that the skill to fasten the watch is “here,” referring to the audience .
- He connects this to the concept of “원” (circle/origin), which is a shortened form of the five aggregates (오온): form, sensation, perception, mental formations, and consciousness (색수상행식) .
- He states that these five aggregates are ultimately non-existent (개공) .
- He relates this to Buddha’s teaching to let go of the five aggregates, meaning to abandon the thought of bringing gifts .
- He questions the idea of giving and receiving if there is no one to receive .
- He then shifts to the current situation, noting that flower sales are down due to COVID-19, especially during graduation season .
#4 (00:06:20) Prophecy of the Gyeongja Year (2020) and COVID-19
- 허경영 reminds the audience that he predicted a “state of war” for South Korea at the beginning of the Gyeongja year (2020) .
- He clarified it wouldn’t be a war with North Korea but still a “war” .
- He explains that the character “경” (Gyeong) signifies war, referencing the Gyeongsul National Humiliation (경술국치) .
- He states that the Gyeongja year (2020) would bring immense economic hardship, worse than the IMF crisis .
- He mentions that the rat (쥐), the symbol of the Gyeongja year, is often associated with wealth, but in this context, it signifies a time when rats starve because grain stores are empty .
- He warns that the Gyeongja year is a time of potential disaster, as rats are known to spread terrible diseases .
- He refers to a video where he made these predictions multiple times .
- He reiterates that this is a “병란” (disease-related war), not a conventional war .
- He claims that a “천신” (heavenly being) will cure this disease, and that calling his name, 허경영, will achieve this .
- He observes that his supporters are wearing masks due to current policies, but implies that they don’t need to if they call his name .
#5 (00:08:30) COVID-19 vs. Flu and Immunity Test
- 허경영 asks which is scarier, COVID-19 or the flu .
- He points out that many more people die from the flu annually than from COVID-19, yet the flu is not contained .
- He explains that both are viruses .
- He questions why people are so afraid of COVID-19, noting that healthy individuals can recover at home, similar to a common cold .
- He asserts that calling his name, 허경영, brings a difference .
- He invites a first-time attendee to demonstrate the effect of calling his name .
- The attendee introduces himself as being from Cheonho-dong, South Korea, a “Heo Kyeong-young 보유국” (Heo Kyeong-young-possessing nation) .
- 허경영 instructs him to remove his mask and asks someone to hold the microphone .
- He explains that he will show why calling his name strengthens immunity .
- He asks the attendee to call out “Jesus” and “Buddha” while he tests his arm strength, showing no strength .
- When the attendee calls out “Heo Kyeong-young,” his arm becomes incredibly strong, impossible to move .
- 허경영 states that this is not human strength but comes from heaven, indicating increased immunity .
- He then tests various political parties (Democratic Party, United Future Party, US Republican Party, US Democratic Party) and institutions (White House, Vatican, churches), showing no strength .
- He also tests “Haneulgung” (Sky Palace), which shows strength .
- He tests places he was born or grew up (Jungnangcheon, Jisumyeon, Jisoo Elementary School, Hyeopseong High School), all of which show strength .
- However, when testing prestigious universities like Seoul National University, Korea University, and Yonsei University, the strength disappears .
- He explains that wherever he has set foot, infinite energy is activated .
- He states that this is the difference between humans and him, and between religion and him .
- He declares that this is an era of judgment, where all religions are ending, and COVID-19 has come for this purpose .
- He claims that organizations that mislead people will close, but people will come to him because they know who he is and feel safe .
- He reiterates that calling his name even once increases immunity by a thousand or ten thousand times .
#6 (00:14:30) The Nature of Elements and Levels
- 허경영 asks if there’s any name of a person or object that doesn’t lose strength when called .
- He discusses the composition of diamonds and coal, both made of six hydrogen atoms, and questions why they differ in appearance .
- He explains that hydrogen cannot exist as an atom but only as an element .
- He mentions that the universe is made of 108 elements, with the last being Nobelium .
- He lists various elements and their atomic numbers, illustrating how adding one hydrogen atom changes the element .
- He emphasizes that hydrogen is invisible, yet it creates all matter in space, including the medium itself .
- He explains that people accumulate “levels” by listening to his lectures, with “무” (Mu) being the highest .
- He describes a hierarchical system of levels, where reaching “천무” (Cheonmu) means returning to 1 and climbing again, with multiple “무”s signifying higher attainment .
- He states that those who achieve five “무”s will be in his “공전” (sphere/domain) .
- He then tests the level of the event host .
- The host’s level is shown to be “무” (Mu), indicating a high level .
- 허경영 explains that those who distribute flyers or call his name frequently achieve high levels .
- He clarifies that “levels” are not about discrimination but about the “order of Baekgung” (백궁의 질서) .
- He states that higher levels in Baekgung are associated with beauty and radiance, making it difficult for lower-level beings to look at them .
- He tests the level of the first-time attendee, who is at 150, the default level for all humans .
- He explains that no human can exceed 150 levels naturally .
- He mentions that his system is checked by heaven, unlike other religious groups .
- He states that distributing flyers increases one’s level by 10,000 .
- He demonstrates that calling his name ten times consecutively can rapidly increase one’s level to “해” (Hae) .
- He explains that this level increase strengthens immunity, preventing diseases like cancer .
- He clarifies that he initially didn’t reveal this method to encourage people to distribute flyers .
- He emphasizes that heaven monitors people’s words .
- He assures the attendee that his increased level will protect him from trivial germs .
#7 (00:22:00) Five Energies and Time Travel
- 허경영 calls another male attendee, a North Korean defector .
- He explains that once a level is increased, it does not decrease .
- He states that the defector is handsome, which is why he met him .
- He explains that he will infuse five types of “angels” into the defector’s body .
- He tests the defector for the presence of “angels,” finding none .
- He clarifies that levels and angels are different, as angels can leave if one curses their spouse .
- He then tests for “internal organ energy,” “muscle energy,” and “physical energy,” finding all to be zero .
- He finds “fundamental energy,” which is always present as basic energy from one’s mother .
- He demonstrates that he can remove even this fundamental energy .
- He then restores the fundamental energy .
- He claims that with this power, he can incapacitate a million soldiers or a boxer like Park Jong-pal with just a glance .
- He states that the defector is currently powerless, like a corpse, and would fall if pushed .
- He then infuses all five energies into the defector .
- He confirms the presence of “angels,” “internal organ energy,” “muscle energy,” “physical energy,” and “fundamental energy” .
- He demonstrates removing only the “physical energy” .
- He explains that even one missing energy makes one susceptible to COVID-19 .
- He states that everyone present has all five energies .
- He mentions that despite wearing masks and sanitizing, he infused all five energies into the audience before the lecture .
- He confirms that the defector now has all five energies .
- He then demonstrates his ability to travel through time by taking the defector back 10 years .
- He tests the defector’s energies in the past, finding only “fundamental energy” present .
- He then takes the defector back to when he was six years old .
- He tests his strength, finding none, and reveals that the defector suffered from bronchial issues at that age .
- He then moves to the defector’s age of 15, where his bronchial health improved .
- He confirms the defector’s current age and health .
- He explains that he can see the past and future, which is a divine ability .
- He confirms that the defector now has all five energies .
- The defector thanks him and returns to his seat .
#8 (00:30:50) The Defector’s Story and Baekgung System
- The North Korean defector confirms he came last night after watching Cheongjeon YouTube .
- He shares that he suffered immensely, crossing six countries .
- 허경영 emphasizes that the defector’s suffering is everyone’s suffering, and they should treat such individuals well and compensate them for their hardships .
- He suggests that a dividend should be given to them .
- He infuses energy into the defector using the hand wearing the watch .
- The defector asks for confirmation of the energy, and 허경영 confirms all five energies are present, making his body like steel .
- 허경영 states that only “levels” exist in Baekgung (Sky Palace), maintaining its order .
- He mentions that billions of teams manage the levels of infinite humans across the universe .
- He clarifies that Baekgung has no distinctions of nobility, strength, or wealth .
- He explains that everyone in Baekgung can use resources freely, like having their own bank .
- He defines “level” as “수준” (standard/quality), which is self-made, not externally granted .
- He states that while people on Earth feel unfairly treated by these distinctions, they don’t exist in Baekgung .
- He explains that people in Baekgung are astonished by its system .
- He describes how he appears radiant and difficult to see for those with lower levels, but clearly visible and beautiful to those with higher levels .
- He explains that lower-level beings in Baekgung find it hard to look at higher-level beings due to their dazzling radiance .
#9 (00:35:50) The Power of Sound and the Nature of Meditation
- 허경영 states that a divine being (신인) can cause all changes by simply looking at things with their mind .
- He asks how humans cause things to happen, explaining that humans must call his name aloud .
- He emphasizes that merely thinking his name is not enough; speaking it aloud causes levels to rise rapidly .
- He explains that he didn’t reveal this secret before the election to prevent people from only calling his name without distributing flyers .
- He now reveals it because reaching “무” is not enough; one needs multiple “무”s to be by his side in Baekgung .
- He challenges other religions, stating that calling “나무아미타불 관세음보살” billions of times won’t raise one’s level .
- He criticizes the excessive reaction to COVID-19, calling it a type of flu that causes fewer deaths than the regular flu in China .
- He laments the damage to the economy and suggests that if KBS called his name, the virus would not spread .
- He assures the audience that calling his name ten times consecutively will bring powerful phenomena and encourages them not to be discouraged .
- He explains that human connections (인연) are formed through sound .
- He uses an example: cursing one’s spouse aloud causes angels to leave, but thinking it does not .
- He calls the first-time attendee back to demonstrate .
- He tells the attendee that he has received treasures and is standing next to the creator of the universe .
- He acknowledges that people might mock him now, but levels are being managed, and those who want to go to a good place should call his name .
- He warns that those who criticize him or doubt his powers will be punished .
- He mentions that many famous people secretly visit him for energy and blessings for their children .
- He reiterates that humans need to use sound to change their energy, unlike him who can do it with his mind .
- He explains that sound is an action, while thoughts are merely endurance .
- He states that suppressing anger and then expressing it verbally can cause accumulated karma (업장) to erupt .
- He confirms that the attendee has angels .
- He demonstrates that if the attendee curses his wife aloud, the angels leave .
- He then restores the angels .
- He shows that cursing his wife mentally does not cause the angels to leave .
- He explains that angels are the ultimate judges, representing the highest level of integrity .
- He then discusses the difference between “명상” (meditation) and “묵상” (contemplation) .
- He explains that “묵상” is thinking about a higher being or God, while “명상” is looking within oneself .
- He criticizes that most people misunderstand these terms .
- He states that when he looks at people and smiles, he is “명상”ing, contemplating why he created such beings .
- He reveals that he is in “Dongta Hell” (동타 지옥) to save people .
- He explains that a divine being descends to hell to save others, referencing the Buddhist story of Mognyeon Jonja saving his mother .
- He states that Earth is hell from a divine perspective, and he has come to save people .
- He explains that COVID-19 marks a turning point in the religious landscape of South Korea .
- He reiterates that the Gyeongja year brings “병치” (disease-related humiliation), similar to the Gyeongsul National Humiliation .
- He states that a heavenly being has come to address this “병치” and has given gifts of “levels” and “angels” (Holy Spirit) .
- He expresses frustration with those who call him a fraud .
- He shares his personal history of poverty, wearing worn-out clothes, avoiding girls due to shame, and working in many factories while studying .
- He mentions never having tasted alcohol, tobacco, coffee, soda, or cola .
- He recounts being adopted by Lee Byung-chul, the founder of Samsung, in his third year of high school, finally getting proper clothes .
- He reiterates that his angels leave if he speaks harshly to his wife, but not if he thinks it .
- He explains that angels are like supreme judges, constantly checking and raising one’s level .
- He concludes by stating that the attendee’s level has risen to “해” (Hae) .
Other Useful Information
1. Heo Kyeong-young’s Predictions for Gyeongja Year (2020)
- War-like State: Predicted a “state of war” for South Korea, not a military conflict but a “병란” (disease-related war) .
- Economic Hardship: Foretold immense economic difficulties, worse than the IMF crisis .
- Disease: Linked the Gyeongja year to disease, as the rat (쥐) symbol can spread illness .
- divine intervention: Claimed that a “천신” (heavenly being) would cure the disease, and calling his name, 허경영, would achieve this .
2. The Five Energies
- 천사 (Angel): Represents a spiritual presence that can be lost through negative verbal actions .
- 내장 에너지 (Internal Organ Energy): Relates to the health and vitality of internal organs .
- 근육 에너지 (Muscle Energy): Pertains to muscle quality and strength .
- 육체 에너지 (Physical Energy): Refers to overall bodily strength and vitality .
- 근본 에너지 (Fundamental Energy): Basic energy inherited from one’s mother, always present unless actively removed .
3. Levels in Baekgung (Sky Palace)
- Purpose: levels maintain the “order of Baekgung” and are not about discrimination .
- Management: Billions of teams manage the levels of infinite humans across the universe .
- Acquisition: levels increase by listening to 허경영‘s lectures, distributing flyers, or calling his name aloud .
- Characteristics: Higher levels are associated with beauty and radiance, making it difficult for lower-level beings to look at them .
- Permanence: Once a level is increased, it does not decrease .
- Distinctions: Baekgung has no distinctions of nobility, strength, or wealth .
4. Meditation vs. Contemplation
- 묵상 (Contemplation): Thinking about a higher being or God .
- 명상 (Meditation): Looking within oneself, not at external deities .
5. Dongta Hell (동타 지옥)
- Definition: A state where a divine being descends to hell (Earth) to save people .
- Purpose: To alleviate suffering and offer gifts of “levels” and “angels” .